[Nuclear]

Originally Posted by yasiru89

Here's why its NOT a cero- its called 'Getsuga Tenshou'! lol (I know.. this is LESS than an arc vs beam argument! heh heh)

But this is of course ASSUMING Ichigo's new masked form is using it just as Hichigo did against Byakuya, and not half-assedly like Ichigo!

Ok, you might come up with a way to refute that, but I'm not going to bother. Suffice to say, I'm expecting a lot from an Ichigo cero! (probably like you actually!)

As for the stages of Zenbonsakura Kageyoshi, I think there are some I mighta missed, but I got all the important ones- that white imperial... thing is the final form.
Who was it, the other person that faced Byakuya's bankai? (it can't been just seeing it, since 3 captains have to witness a captain candidate's bankai or something, right?)
I was looking forward to seeing grand dad Kuchiki fight.... oh well... can't have everything in Pendulum!

I think someone mentioned that the 'Getsuga Tenshou' was his cero... I was merely stating that the ceros were generally more like a beam, not that he couldn't use it. I'm fairly sure he can, considering he has a Hollow side, and all high class hallows (gillian and up) have been able to use it from what I can tell. It seems very unlikely that he cant'.

I'm just thinking that it would probably look like a concentrated 'Getsuga Tenshou', thus a beam. Then again it's difficult to say as it would be hard to get a beam out of anything other then a stab really, unless some ball froms at the tip of his sword and shots out... in the end I guess it's really difficult to say how it would look.

Originally Posted by yasiru89

So maybe if Zangetsu comes back, he might teach Ichigo a new form (or two) of his bankai!
Say, combined with a killer cero that might make him Yama/Aizen level power-wise! Or atleast Shinji/Urahara level!

Quite possible.

Originally Posted by Hijo_de_Algo

if ichigo learns how to do cero...holy crap that would be soooo amazing

Indeed.

[Dioschild]

Probably black or white zangetsu. I would baffled if isshin would just pop up and taught ichigo.

[Lord Zetsuei]

If I may...

I have been mulling this over for a while in my head. I would be interested to see Ichigo learn some Raitsu control. Namely, in the respect of him being able to forcibly control the level of power exerted and thusly changing the appearance of Zangetsu back to the original blade. He seems to be the only Shinigami that has his sword in the released Shikai state.

On another note, I believe that some time in the future, Ichigo's father would have to be his teacher. Consider how strong he must be to have taken down King Fisher without even batting an eyelash. I'm not saying that Aizen goes back to Hueco Mundo and Ichigo spends some quality time with his old man, but some time soon Ichigo will find out, possibly during Aizen's whole invasion thingy.

Another note, I would personally like to learn about Ichigo's Father's past. What happened that left him out of Soul Society?

And finally, I believe that the next logical step in Ichigo's training must involve Kido and/or Cero in some form, though I don't see him shooting it out of his sword. A simple palm blast of pure ownage would suffice.

[Nuclear]

Originally Posted by Lord Zetsuei

I would be interested to see Ichigo learn some Raitsu control. Namely, in the respect of him being able to forcibly control the level of power exerted and thusly changing the appearance of Zangetsu back to the original blade. He seems to be the only Shinigami that has his sword in the released Shikai state.

That would indeed be interesting, but I'm not sure that could happen. I Remember they said something about it early on in the story, but I'm not sure what it was they said.

Originally Posted by Lord Zetsuei

On another note, I believe that some time in the future, Ichigo's father would have to be his teacher. Consider how strong he must be to have taken down King Fisher without even batting an eyelash. I'm not saying that Aizen goes back to Hueco Mundo and Ichigo spends some quality time with his old man, but some time soon Ichigo will find out, possibly during Aizen's whole invasion thingy.

Yup, incredibly strong. Also I agree they probably probably won't spend quality time together, unless you count intense sparing as "Bonding Time", and a kick in the face as a "Show of Affection".

Originally Posted by Lord Zetsuei

If I may...
Another note, I would personally like to learn about Ichigo's Father's past. What happened that left him out of Soul Society?

I want to know as well.

Originally Posted by Lord Zetsuei

And finally, I believe that the next logical step in Ichigo's training must involve Kido and/or Cero in some form, though I don't see him shooting it out of his sword

That would be the next logical way to go, unless were missing something.

Originally Posted by Lord Zetsuei

A simple palm blast of pure ownage would suffice.

Lol, yea I guess it would

[Jayzee]

i think that after the espada section the story will end, there will be no more teachers. it can't go on forever you know. sometimes people get annoyed at animes or mangas that simply go on for way too long.

[Lord Zetsuei]

It's true that series can not go on forever, but in Bleach, there are still too many unanswered questions and hinted plot lines. My opinion is that after this arc, there will be at least two others before the end. I'm guessing 50 or more chapters after the conclusion of the Aizen conflict.

[lilant74]

well maybe ichigo could learn to actually control ALL of his reiatsu, cause his fight with Ulquiorra, he said that ichigo's reiatsu was just leacking out or sumfing. so maybe someone could teach him to control all that reiatsu in his body.

[Nuclear]

Originally Posted by lilant74

well maybe ichigo could learn to actually control ALL of his reiatsu, cause his fight with Ulquiorra, he said that ichigo's reiatsu was just leacking out or sumfing. so maybe someone could teach him to control all that reiatsu in his body.

Always a possbility

As for a manga going on too long, I'm not quite sure about that. I beileve a manga only goes on too long if the plot doesn't really advance. From what I can tell, manga's like "One Peice". "Bleach", and "Naruto" still have a fair way to go before they can be ended without causes problems. Although I might go as far as saying that the arc with azien could be the last one, but it would have to really go into the Real world, so we could get some background information on Ichigo's dad. So I'd say 50-100 chapters at least, the end would be rushed if it took less then that.

I was looking at the "Cased Closed" manga (or Detective Conan) and that would be a prime example, it seems there are nothing but cases and the main plot isn't really going anywhere.