[Black Rose Baron]

If you had a kakugane, what do you think your busou renkin would be?

[TrueSuffering]

Whoa, no comments at all? That sucks. I'll be the first then xD If I had a Kakugane...hmmm.I have always been good with spears, it would probably give me a spear with the ability to be completely undetectable xD I'm good at sneaking around xD On a random note, i'll get a cherry pie that explodes into bronze toilets!

[anime freak Charlie]

My kakugane would be a sword. Swords are my favorite weapons and they're really cool.

[Black Rose Baron]

i guess mine would probably be a katana or a rapier, maybe a halberd but probably not X3 it would prolly be pretty boring actualy i guess it would just have built in energy X3 lawls spears are awsome but why do people only jab with them? they have so much range that swingind and full thrusting is much better >.> X3 lawls but i know teh spears weakness X3 lawls

[waterx]

i didn't know you guyes started this thread. mine would be an epay (pronounsiation is ep-pay i apologize for my spelling) because i'm a fencer. oh yah you uyes need to think up of an ability. mine would be to force the opponents to follow the rules in fencing. so if i fight a person that never fenced befor. i will pont him. and fyi this is off track but my seg I driving teacher was one of the founders of the pont use

[Black Rose Baron]

O.o ok then that interesting, but if you meet a superoir swordman whoo isnt nessisairily a fencer you are still gonna be in troublly because of a goods swordsmans ability to adapt to the situation X3 lawls

[waterx]

Originally Posted by Black Rose Baron

O.o ok then that interesting, but if you meet a superoir swordman whoo isnt nessisairily a fencer you are still gonna be in troublly because of a goods swordsmans ability to adapt to the situation X3 lawls

yah thats true but not every swordman know the rules of fencing so even though theres a chance of meeting him or her, its not very high. and for a good swordsman to adapt to the rules, it'll take some time and i score points fast. oh yah, since using aa regulat epay with a covered tip is boring. how about i add on a few other abilities of fencing. the next one is that if 5 points are scored on you, you die. can we use artifact from the negima artifact forem if we want. cause if we can, then my gravity gloves would be my second one cause in fencing, you need gloves to protect your hands and the gravity gloves would lighten my weapons weight, but will mae my opponents blade heavy or light every time it comes into contact. so if the blade is coming from the top, i could make it light to help guard me or if its coming from the bottom, i could make my blade heavy to help immobilive my enemy

[Black Rose Baron]

or uou could meet somone with a spear who might just stab you from range before you had a chance, i dont fence i prefer kendo but when fencing i normaly win because i have more experiance anyway, and a busou renkin doesnt work like that. it has one ability that cant be matched by mdern science and you can have only one type of busou renkin no matter how many kakugane you have, the busou renkin will be the same type of weapon, the same ability with a different design, and before you pull up ouka's busou renkin; the bow and gauntlet are actualy part of the automaton and not two different things, the actualy ability of the busou renkin is damage transfer, to heal an ally, but obviously, because its a bow its able to shoot arrows anyway, as its a bow, you can use it for that purpose, thats all >.> plus an epay is kinda fragile and i could just smash it with a scythe, also 5 points kill, not realy how things work in this manga, it would make more sense for the cap to be removed and then you could use it like an actual foil with a point so intead of poking them five times and doing no damage, and against a spear user, if you dont have a great deal of live combat experiance, with an epay, that is impossible, just stab them once with the foil and peirce the heart because against someone with experiance, one shot is all you will get, and neither a foil nor an epay will last that long anyway so you're only gonna get one chance, its pretty pointless realy >.>

[waterx]

Originally Posted by Black Rose Baron

or uou could meet somone with a spear who might just stab you from range before you had a chance, i dont fence i prefer kendo but when fencing i normaly win because i have more experiance anyway, and a busou renkin doesnt work like that. it has one ability that cant be matched by mdern science and you can have only one type of busou renkin no matter how many kakugane you have, the busou renkin will be the same type of weapon, the same ability with a different design, and before you pull up ouka's busou renkin; the bow and gauntlet are actualy part of the automaton and not two different things, the actualy ability of the busou renkin is damage transfer, to heal an ally, but obviously, because its a bow its able to shoot arrows anyway, as its a bow, you can use it for that purpose, thats all >.> plus an epay is kinda fragile and i could just smash it with a scythe, also 5 points kill, not realy how things work in this manga, it would make more sense for the cap to be removed and then you could use it like an actual foil with a point so intead of poking them five times and doing no damage, and against a spear user, if you dont have a great deal of live combat experiance, with an epay, that is impossible, just stab them once with the foil and peirce the heart because against someone with experiance, one shot is all you will get, and neither a foil nor an epay will last that long anyway so you're only gonna get one chance, its pretty pointless realy >.>

in theory, it sounds correct but did you ever took in consideration that my buso rekin centers around fencing not the equipment itself. and against a spear user, they will have to put their hand closer to the tip so they could use it as an epay or foil. i sometimes use random objects to practice, from sticks to random stuff. and my stratigy is to lower my opponents guard when they think they are about to win so that is why i set up the 5 point kill rule. in other wors. budda will forgives 3 times. thats when i start my attack. my coach says my defence is good

[Black Rose Baron]

yes but in theory its still impossible, plus there are about 13 different variations of fencing and about 8 or 9 different weapons, if for instance a long foil was used then a spear user would hold it nearer the end of the spear, also like i said, 5 point kill is pretty uselss, if you didnt have a cap and, as a busou renkin are raw fighting instincts stuck together, you wouldnt have that kind of restraint, plus good swordsman can fight bare handed so wont be so easily thrown off, they'd just dodge 5 hits and if they are physicaly stronger than you or faster, you will have a slight disadvantage as they would be able to close the gap faster/ more easily and against a reasonable fighter you wouldnt score 5 hits, they'd parry or dodge, so its still more logical to remove the cap and just stab them >.> plus even if it did centre around fencing and not the weapon, so what? it will then have a range restraint, as in the fencing start or post gaurd distance and against a ranged user, well... you'll just be shot wont you? and against say a gravity based weapon, they could just lamp you down and leave you, and a wepaon like sunlight hear with charging abilities due to energy conversion, they'd close the gap befor you could react and still cut you down even if your busou renkin was in effect. Also you haven't considered a weapon like the genkisen that alows full body regerneration, a long cross spear with a long blade, 5 points kill wouldnt work because he'd jsut regenerate, you'd trap yourself. And then you have nut bags, some people who relise they are at a complete disadvantage will just lket you stab them, and then stab you with w/e weapon they have, which will probably have a much large and heavier blade than your epay. And finaly; weapons that make no sense at all X3. inukai's busou renkin is two rabid dogs, so what? is he gonna pick up the dog and fight you with it? lols X3 and then there is bubble cage, if it touches you or your busou renkin it will shrink you by 6 inches and therefore shrink your area of affect by that much and its not a tangable hand to hand weapon; but a whole array of crazy balloons, so it ould become an environmental factor and un affected by your busou renkin, like say; the rain. Then there is the busou renkin; genocide circus..... ITS A GIANT WARSHIP! IT FIRES MISSLES! HOW YOU GONNA FIGHT THAT? X3 LOLS then there is the busou renkin of the metal jacket silver skin, its a full metal jacket, ABC type (atomic resistant, bilogical resistant and chemical resistant) total defence type, and if you trap yourself at that range he will just reverse the silver skin and tie you down (although that my not coenside with the rules of fencing but then again you wont be able to injure him either) then there is near death happiness, well you can see the problem there right? And finally blaze of glory, the busou renkin of the napalm flame, flame assimilation is its ability and as long as the fires burn, and by the way they burn at 10,000oC hiwatari is un -hurtable, even being near that heat would kill you and probably melt your busou renkin before it could make contact with you>.>