[itzjusdrama]

Heh, this has little to do with chapter 158. But now the chapter uploaded as that one is actually 157.

Maybe it was because Cross can't read the notes? Maybe Mana gave him the notes to put in Tim so Allen could read it later?

And yea, the Noah in politics. The world is beyond saving now.

Ah, Tyki. I am so happy he's back with the same personality as before, and just as good-looking to understate it. Is that guy really related to him? With the Nii-san and all. But the new Noah, Cyril is it, makes me laugh anyway. And Rhode is so cute with her new hair.

This manga makes me want to write something steampunk.

And what is the significance of an Akuma's evolution? Can anyone come up with an idea? And level 5, that's something scary. If a level 4 can decapitate you without you knowing, I don't want to meet a higher level.

[General_Exorcist]

Ok first, to the people who seem to be surprised that Road and Tyki are alive....well duh they are alive...the last time I saw them I knew they were going to live...kind of obvious.

Anyway, I think there are many ways you could take this, but I also think that possibly certain things seem to be very obvious. I really think Allen could really be the new 14th, since they talk about the innocence attaching itself to him, as if it knew what Allen was. But I also feel that I recall that the only one who can actually use the song effectively was the 14th, so that might make sense if he was the 14th.

[seeliespright]

We weren't really surprised either, and in our hearts knew that they'd be alive, but we are expressing our pleasure at seeing them again. We have so much Tiki Rhode love that it overflows.

As for Allen and the 14th. I'm sticking to my theory that he is only half (at most) of the 14th, and the Timcampy is the rest. I especially think so since Cross made Tim, and he was supposedly the one who had the power over the ark given to him by the 14th.

I don't know what quality the 14th has though, i.e. Tiki of pleasure, Rhode of dream. What would be passed on to Allen if he is the successor of the Noah would be _that_ quality and not necessarily control over the ark (I'm still undecided if the 14th retained power over the ark after he gave it to another, or if he gave away the power in order to assure that he couldn't be forced to use it by the Earl - I'm thinking the latter).

Being the 14th means you are a Noah. It wouldn't make sense that Innocence would be attracted to a Noah. Allen was just born with the Innocence anyway - it wasn't given to him later. You may be referring to the Innocence following him after it was "destroyed" but I think that case is just Allen's Innocence wanting to remain with him.

[itzjusdrama]

Yes, lots of love for Tyki and Rhode.

I agree with seeliespright on the Tim and Allen theory. At the end of chapter 131, it says that Allen and Tim have the power of the 14th. But the, shadow, 14th's spirit, ghost, whatever it is, keeps referring to Tim as "My Timcanpy."

They talk a lot about the will of the fourteenth. Like when Malcom was addressing Cross about Allen in ch. 136 and other places I can't remember. And I thought Tyki was the Noah of Pleasure?

And maybe the Innocence attached, as it when he was born, to him because Allen is the prophesied "Destroyer of Time" or something like that.

[Nuerhachi Niru]

Just because Timcanpy has the notes I don't think that means he has the 14th's power. Yeah, I do agree he was the 14th's golem at a time and there's a high possibility that Mana was the Noah, but projecting images is just another ability that it has. I'm thinking that when Cross and the Noah/Mana had contact with each other Cross probably handed him Tim to record the notes. Then the Noah gave his power to Cross and Cross handed it over to Allen at some time.

It is strange though- if Cross had the "power" why didn't he grow stitches on his forehead like the other Noah? Does the Innocence cancel out that effect or something?


(Phew...I thought the series was coming to it's end.)

[seeliespright]

1. The 14th says, "My Timcampy. My Allen." I'm pretty certain from that he means they together are invested with the power to control the ark.

2. Cross had the power and knowledge of how to control the ark, not the power of a Noah. When they discuss the power being passed on, they say, 'The 14th instructed another how to control the ark.' not 'The 14th passed on his Noah power, to control the ark".

I'm glad we have a significant way to go before the series is over. I do love the drawing so, and Tiki is so hot, that I don't want this pleasure to end.

[itzjusdrama]

Cross isn't the 14th; he might have the 14th's power. A completely different case. And, as seeliespright said, it would make no sense for a Noah to have an Innocence. Cross is not a Noah because you need to inherit the genes or something like that. Either way, you're born a Noah.

And quote from the 2rd page of Chapter 132

"Allen My Timcanpy These two have the 'Power of the Musician'"

And the stitches are referred to as the Noah's Holy Marks.

And I'm still not sure of how Tim could be the 14th as I thought Cross created him.

[itzjusdrama]

Heh, took too long to type that up. But I agree with everything seeliespright has to say. Tyki is so hot, the art is awesome, and I'd be extremely sad to see it end.

[marksky01]

Im just confuse, Cross is noah ryt? Coz, i just reread some chappies. The earl said that there's one noah that betrayed them (not exact words). Is it cross or the 14th?

Others are telling that the 14th is allens father (Mana, am i ryt?).

[shadow4002]

one thing thats for sure, unless a plot twist occurs noah cant use innocence so good odds on cross not being a noah.