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fruitpunch_01 · 09-29-2008, 07:40 PM

if i had a death note i would publicly announce i have one then use it for blackmail to take over the world

x---loveless · 09-29-2008, 08:42 PM

It's surprising how many people say they would kill, but I really doubt most or any of you actually would if the situation arose. (and please don't say "how do you know?!You don't know who I am" etc, because it is most likely the truth in my opinon, since if so many were able to go on killing spree's and give their souls away like that then there would be many of you out there doing it right now, since by using the death note you would have to not let the fear of being caught stop you anyway.)
For me right now, I would be able to plan on how to use it, but I have not seen or experienced enough of the world to be able to use it.
If I would happen to find the Death Note then I would take about 3-5 years on making sure my planning was perfected and make sure I was mentally strong enough, mature and intelligent enough to be able to plan ahead quicker and better.
Emotionally I am rather strong, but alas I do tend to break down as most others do sometimes.
I would probably vaguely take the same path as Light although I wouldn't put myself in such risky situations, not because I would be afraid of being caught and killed, but because I despise not finishing what I started.
I'm sure I've posted once on this thread saying I would kill, and yes I would, but my range of criminals would be of higher standard than Light's. Also, I would make sure I knew if this person was guilty or not. If I had no way of knowing, then I would give them the benifit of the doubt and let them live. (of course, keeping a note of their picture and name(not in the death note

))
Not that I'm saying I would have any right to be 'justice', but at the time I would have the power to kill that others(including animals) do not, and therefore I would be superior in that extent, and everything and everyone answers to someone more superior than them. Basically what I'm saying is, it wouldn't be whether I had the right to or not, because I would be superior, and therefore I would be able to decide.(Light got corrupted and his actions went more foolish obviously).
also this statement:
"Of course, I'd need a team of .. maybe ... a few hundred. I'd make them all trade for the shinigami eyes ( I wouldn't tell them that it would cost half their lifespans) and get them all set up in a single underground base."
wouldn't that mean everyone of them would have to be in posession of a death note, and if there were that many death notes, since there were more than nine then you wouldn't be able to kill with yours anyway?

Shadow_Phoenix · 09-29-2008, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by x---loveless

It's surprising how many people say they would kill, but I really doubt most or any of you actually would if the situation arose. (and please don't say "how do you know?!You don't know who I am" etc, because it is most likely the truth in my opinon, since if so many were able to go on killing spree's and give their souls away like that then there would be many of you out there doing it right now, since by using the death note you would have to not let the fear of being caught stop you anyway.)
For me right now, I would be able to plan on how to use it, but I have not seen or experienced enough of the world to be able to use it.
If I would happen to find the Death Note then I would take about 3-5 years on making sure my planning was perfected and make sure I was mentally strong enough, mature and intelligent enough to be able to plan ahead quicker and better.
Emotionally I am rather strong, but alas I do tend to break down as most others do sometimes.
I would probably vaguely take the same path as Light although I wouldn't put myself in such risky situations, not because I would be afraid of being caught and killed, but because I despise not finishing what I started.
I'm sure I've posted once on this thread saying I would kill, and yes I would, but my range of criminals would be of higher standard than Light's. Also, I would make sure I knew if this person was guilty or not. If I had no way of knowing, then I would give them the benifit of the doubt and let them live. (of course, keeping a note of their picture and name(not in the death note

))
Not that I'm saying I would have any right to be 'justice', but at the time I would have the power to kill that others(including animals) do not, and therefore I would be superior in that extent, and everything and everyone answers to someone more superior than them. Basically what I'm saying is, it wouldn't be whether I had the right to or not, because I would be superior, and therefore I would be able to decide.(Light got corrupted and his actions went more foolish obviously).
also this statement:
"Of course, I'd need a team of .. maybe ... a few hundred. I'd make them all trade for the shinigami eyes ( I wouldn't tell them that it would cost half their lifespans) and get them all set up in a single underground base."
wouldn't that mean everyone of them would have to be in posession of a death note, and if there were that many death notes, since there were more than nine then you wouldn't be able to kill with yours anyway?

That last part you mentioned. I remember reading that post. They were saying that and also that they would tear out a bunch of pages for each one to write on. So, it'd be one notebook, but multiple pages of it being in the possession of multiple people. Kinda like Light with Takuda and Mikami.

Also. The statement about the animals. Brings up a curious thought. Would the death note work on an animal? I mean...I guess it may if you have the shinigami eyes but...think about it. Humans don't actually give the animals their names. It's more like secondary names most likely because their animal mother probably gives them a name. And that would be their real name. So...wouldn't you be unable to know the animal's name if you didn't have the eyes?

x---loveless · 09-29-2008, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow_Phoenix

That last part you mentioned. I remember reading that post. They were saying that and also that they would tear out a bunch of pages for each one to write on. So, it'd be one notebook, but multiple pages of it being in the possession of multiple people. Kinda like Light with Takuda and Mikami.

ahh right, forgot bout that, but would they all be able to trade for shinigami eyes with just one death note?

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Originally Posted by Shadow_Phoenix

Also. The statement about the animals. Brings up a curious thought. Would the death note work on an animal? I mean...I guess it may if you have the shinigami eyes but...think about it. Humans don't actually give the animals their names. It's more like secondary names most likely because their animal mother probably gives them a name. And that would be their real name. So...wouldn't you be unable to know the animal's name if you didn't have the eyes?

Actually, I was just stating it for my point in superiority. But yeah, it'd be awesome to find out,although I don't think it'd work since it says "The human whose name is written in this note shall die". But I guess you couldn't know if you didn't try it....

I have a bad way with words, forgive me.

ZERO PHOENIX · 09-30-2008, 03:08 PM

I must say, what an excellent post!

"It's surprising how many people say they would kill, but I really doubt most or any of you actually would if the situation arose. ....since if so many were able to go on killing spree's and give their souls away like that then there would be many of you out there doing it right now, since by using the death note you would have to not let the fear of being caught stop you anyway."

I agree with your argument but I'm not sure how well it fits. You are correct to say that most people would be out doing such things right now, but that statement is not without it's flaws. Part of what prevents a person from doing a crime is fear of getting caught, not what happens to their soul. It is actually proven by Dostoevsky and others before him that when it comes to committing heinous acts, people in general are little worried about their souls. I think in the case of this thread, most people would probably go on a killing spree provided that they have the DN because they would have a lower probability of getting caught. Most people don't recognize "the soul," and far fewer comprehend it. So, damnation wouldn't be what would prevent someone from doing a crime, but the more immediate punishments handed down by law. Ahhh, I hope that makes sense. It's earlier so I'm not on my game yet.

"For me right now, I would be able to plan on how to use it, but I have not seen or experienced enough of the world to be able to use it. If I would happen to find the Death Note then I would take about 3-5 years on making sure my planning was perfected and make sure I was mentally strong enough, mature and intelligent enough to be able to plan ahead quicker and better."

Indeed. For a goal as ambitious as changing the world, it would have to be carefully thought it.

"Not that I'm saying I would have any right to be 'justice', but at the time I would have the power to kill that others(including animals) do not, and therefore I would be superior in that extent, and everything and everyone answers to someone more superior than them. Basically what I'm saying is, it wouldn't be whether I had the right to or not, because I would be superior, and therefore I would be able to decide.(Light got corrupted and his actions went more foolish obviously)."

I like your argument very much. When you are SUPERIOR, you above everyone else would know what is right and wrong. I'm glad you brought this up and I back you on this. When a person has a certain level of intelligence, a certain level of enlightenment, they realize that right and wrong are NOT relative. The person who knows internally what course of action to take, has a certain level of superiority over most people.

samjaz · 09-30-2008, 09:14 PM

The important fact you must remember is that if you use the Death Note, then there is no Afterlife. If I got it, I would probably write that I would die aged 85 being mentally and physically fit, surrounded by my loving family, then relinquish the note and give it back, so I'd still go to the afterlife, but I'd die happy.

whittlemooie · 09-30-2008, 11:02 PM

Duh i would use it! but no one would know it was me!

hehe. killing spree? no i am not that evil [muwhahaha] you never know. just dont get on my bad side if i do have a death note!

x---loveless · 09-30-2008, 11:05 PM

@samjaz - "The important fact you must remember is that if you use the Death Note, then there is no Afterlife. If I got it, I would probably write that I would die aged 85 being mentally and physically fit, surrounded by my loving family, then relinquish the note and give it back, so I'd still go to the afterlife, but I'd die happy."
- but wouldn't that made you had technically used it (even though writing your own name) and therefore would have no afterlife?
But regardless of this, Ryuk said there was no afterlife anyway as everyone is equal in death, so there wouldn't be a point anyway xD

but nice idea, knowing you were going to die happy ^^ (well, knowing until you're not in posession of the Death Note anymore and don't have the memory of what you wrote anyway

)

@Zero Phoenix - first of all, thank you. Honestly, I though I was going to have people shouting at me for that.
"Part of what prevents a person from doing a crime is fear of getting caught, not what happens to their soul. It is actually proven by Dostoevsky and others before him that when it comes to committing heinous acts, people in general are little worried about their souls. Most people don't recognize "the soul," and far fewer comprehend it. So, damnation wouldn't be what would prevent someone from doing a crime, but the more immediate punishments handed down by law. Ahhh, I hope that makes sense. It's earlier so I'm not on my game yet."
- lol, it does make sense and yeah, I get what you're saying, and I understand. but I do believe most that said they would wouldn't actually be able to. 'cause whether it's by Death Note or say, shooting, it's still killing someone.
To kill, one would have to not have the fear of getting caught too much, or they wouldn't be able to do it for fearing of the consequences.

"I think in the case of this thread, most people would probably go on a killing spree provided that they have the DN because they would have a lower probability of getting caught."
- True, but would that be enough to drive them to be able to kill with the Death Note and not without it?

"I like your argument very much. When you are SUPERIOR, you above everyone else would know what is right and wrong. I'm glad you brought this up and I back you on this. When a person has a certain level of intelligence, a certain level of enlightenment, they realize that right and wrong are NOT relative. The person who knows internally what course of action to take, has a certain level of superiority over most people."
- Exactly what I was trying to say but in better wording ^^"

Shadow_Phoenix · 09-30-2008, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by whittlemooie

Duh i would use it! but no one would know it was me!

hehe. killing spree? no i am not that evil [muwhahaha] you never know. just dont get on my bad side if i do have a death note!

That would be nice. The way you speak of dying. However, there definitely would not be an afterlife for you, even if a heaven and hell did exist in the death note world. They make it very clear that if you use the death note at all that you will go to neither heaven nor hell. it doesn't matter if you only write your name in or if you give up ownership before the person dies and you forget all about it. The point is that it's been used and once the name is written you can not change the fact that they will die in that way.

Niyari · 10-01-2008, 03:29 AM

for me, I'd probably first make a website, a community website like ionno Facebook for example, take the faces and names offa there and help with out overpoplulation. that may seem cruel but hey I"m gonna be creative with my killing painless for the victim and umm.....yeah haha.
but then again I could always just go to like india or china and have fun with a machine gun lol, ahem. and as a FYI I think mexico actually has the highest population cuz I"m sure most of the babies aren't registered....and stuff.

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09-29-2008, 08:42 PM	#322 (permalink)
x---loveless Painless Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cymru ^^ gyda chalon lân yn llawn drygioni... x3 Posts: 507	It's surprising how many people say they would kill, but I really doubt most or any of you actually would if the situation arose. (and please don't say "how do you know?!You don't know who I am" etc, because it is most likely the truth in my opinon, since if so many were able to go on killing spree's and give their souls away like that then there would be many of you out there doing it right now, since by using the death note you would have to not let the fear of being caught stop you anyway.) For me right now, I would be able to plan on how to use it, but I have not seen or experienced enough of the world to be able to use it. If I would happen to find the Death Note then I would take about 3-5 years on making sure my planning was perfected and make sure I was mentally strong enough, mature and intelligent enough to be able to plan ahead quicker and better. Emotionally I am rather strong, but alas I do tend to break down as most others do sometimes. I would probably vaguely take the same path as Light although I wouldn't put myself in such risky situations, not because I would be afraid of being caught and killed, but because I despise not finishing what I started. I'm sure I've posted once on this thread saying I would kill, and yes I would, but my range of criminals would be of higher standard than Light's. Also, I would make sure I knew if this person was guilty or not. If I had no way of knowing, then I would give them the benifit of the doubt and let them live. (of course, keeping a note of their picture and name(not in the death note )) Not that I'm saying I would have any right to be 'justice', but at the time I would have the *power* to kill that others(including animals) do not, and therefore I would be superior in that extent, and everything and everyone answers to someone more superior than them. Basically what I'm saying is, it wouldn't be whether I had the right to or not, because I would be superior, and therefore I would be able to decide.(Light got corrupted and his actions went more foolish obviously). also this statement: "Of course, I'd need a team of .. maybe ... a few hundred. I'd make them all trade for the shinigami eyes ( I wouldn't tell them that it would cost half their lifespans) and get them all set up in a single underground base." wouldn't that mean everyone of them would have to be in posession of a death note, and if there were that many death notes, since there were more than nine then you wouldn't be able to kill with yours anyway? __________________ Our name is *PAINLESS*... with the courage of our insanity, we dare to exist underneath your consciousness... taking away your dreams and desires... all you want now is to keep breathing... Onion Head #8 House Of Yaoi #12 We Love Sai #8 Sasuke #15 Haruno Sakura #7 Vampire Knight #12 SasuNaru!! ♥ #5 Perverts UNITE #39 Bitter Virgins #8 Philosophy #61 Zero Phoenix #16 Momicchi #18

09-30-2008, 03:08 PM	#325 (permalink)
ZERO PHOENIX The Tragic Prince Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: United States Posts: 666	To loveless I must say, what an excellent post! "It's surprising how many people say they would kill, but I really doubt most or any of you actually would if the situation arose. ....since if so many were able to go on killing spree's and give their souls away like that then there would be many of you out there doing it right now, since by using the death note you would have to not let the fear of being caught stop you anyway." I agree with your argument but I'm not sure how well it fits. You are correct to say that most people would be out doing such things right now, but that statement is not without it's flaws. Part of what prevents a person from doing a crime is fear of getting caught, not what happens to their soul. It is actually proven by Dostoevsky and others before him that when it comes to committing heinous acts, people in general are little worried about their souls. I think in the case of this thread, most people would probably go on a killing spree provided that they have the DN because they would have a lower probability of getting caught. Most people don't recognize "the soul," and far fewer comprehend it. So, damnation wouldn't be what would prevent someone from doing a crime, but the more immediate punishments handed down by law. Ahhh, I hope that makes sense. It's earlier so I'm not on my game yet. "For me right now, I would be able to plan on how to use it, but I have not seen or experienced enough of the world to be able to use it. If I would happen to find the Death Note then I would take about 3-5 years on making sure my planning was perfected and make sure I was mentally strong enough, mature and intelligent enough to be able to plan ahead quicker and better." Indeed. For a goal as ambitious as changing the world, it would have to be carefully thought it. "Not that I'm saying I would have any right to be 'justice', but at the time I would have the power to kill that others(including animals) do not, and therefore I would be superior in that extent, and everything and everyone answers to someone more superior than them. Basically what I'm saying is, it wouldn't be whether I had the right to or not, because I would be superior, and therefore I would be able to decide.(Light got corrupted and his actions went more foolish obviously)." I like your argument very much. When you are SUPERIOR, you above everyone else would know what is right and wrong. I'm glad you brought this up and I back you on this. When a person has a certain level of intelligence, a certain level of enlightenment, they realize that right and wrong are NOT relative. The person who knows internally what course of action to take, has a certain level of superiority over most people. __________________ "The world will change. I can change it." "So it is, that the end is merely the beginning." Ring Member of Akatsuki partnered with Chillibean #2 Member of the AzurePein FC #5 Member of the Kingdom Hearts FC #9 Member of the Code Geass FC #10 Member of the Zero Phoenix FC #10 Member of the Kira FC #12 Member of the Akatsuki FC #20 Member of the Philosophy Club Final Fantasy Role Play, Prince Noctis Lucis Caelum. Kingdom Hearts Role Play, Xemnas The Superior.

09-30-2008, 09:14 PM	#326 (permalink)
samjaz Calm Storm Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 24	No. The important fact you must remember is that if you use the Death Note, then there is no Afterlife. If I got it, I would probably write that I would die aged 85 being mentally and physically fit, surrounded by my loving family, then relinquish the note and give it back, so I'd still go to the afterlife, but I'd die happy.

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09-29-2008, 07:40 PM	#321 (permalink)
fruitpunch_01 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 14	if i had a death note i would publicly announce i have one then use it for blackmail to take over the world

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whittlemooie jaymee the bumblebee Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: somewhere in the world :) [Arkansas] Posts: 2	muwhahaha (: Duh i would use it! but no one would know it was me! hehe. killing spree? no i am not that evil [muwhahaha] you never know. just dont get on my bad side if i do have a death note!

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x---loveless Painless Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cymru ^^ gyda chalon lân yn llawn drygioni... x3 Posts: 507	@samjaz - "The important fact you must remember is that if you use the Death Note, then there is no Afterlife. If I got it, I would probably write that I would die aged 85 being mentally and physically fit, surrounded by my loving family, then relinquish the note and give it back, so I'd still go to the afterlife, but I'd die happy." - but wouldn't that made you had technically used it (even though writing your own name) and therefore would have no afterlife? But regardless of this, Ryuk said there was no afterlife anyway as everyone is equal in death, so there wouldn't be a point anyway xD but nice idea, knowing you were going to die happy ^^ (well, knowing until you're not in posession of the Death Note anymore and don't have the memory of what you wrote anyway ) @Zero Phoenix - first of all, thank you. Honestly, I though I was going to have people shouting at me for that. "Part of what prevents a person from doing a crime is fear of getting caught, not what happens to their soul. It is actually proven by Dostoevsky and others before him that when it comes to committing heinous acts, people in general are little worried about their souls. Most people don't recognize "the soul," and far fewer comprehend it. So, damnation wouldn't be what would prevent someone from doing a crime, but the more immediate punishments handed down by law. Ahhh, I hope that makes sense. It's earlier so I'm not on my game yet." - lol, it does make sense and yeah, I get what you're saying, and I understand. but I do believe most that said they would wouldn't actually be able to. 'cause whether it's by Death Note or say, shooting, it's still killing someone. To kill, one would have to not have the fear of getting caught too much, or they wouldn't be able to do it for fearing of the consequences. "I think in the case of this thread, most people would probably go on a killing spree provided that they have the DN because they would have a lower probability of getting caught." - True, but would that be enough to drive them to be able to kill with the Death Note and not without it? "I like your argument very much. When you are SUPERIOR, you above everyone else would know what is right and wrong. I'm glad you brought this up and I back you on this. When a person has a certain level of intelligence, a certain level of enlightenment, they realize that right and wrong are NOT relative. The person who knows internally what course of action to take, has a certain level of superiority over most people." - Exactly what I was trying to say but in better wording ^^" __________________ Our name is *PAINLESS... with the courage of our insanity, we dare to exist underneath your consciousness... taking away your dreams and desires... all you want now is to keep breathing... Onion Head #8 House Of Yaoi #12 We Love Sai #8 Sasuke #15 Haruno Sakura #7 Vampire Knight #12 SasuNaru!! ♥ #5 Perverts UNITE #39 Bitter Virgins #8 Philosophy #61 Zero Phoenix #16 Momicchi #18 Last edited by x---loveless : 09-30-2008 at 11:14 PM.*

10-01-2008, 03:29 AM	#330 (permalink)
Niyari at your service. Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 7	for me, I'd probably first make a website, a community website like ionno Facebook for example, take the faces and names offa there and help with out overpoplulation. that may seem cruel but hey I"m gonna be creative with my killing painless for the victim and umm.....yeah haha. but then again I could always just go to like india or china and have fun with a machine gun lol, ahem. and as a FYI I think mexico actually has the highest population cuz I"m sure most of the babies aren't registered....and stuff.