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ravstrike · 04-27-2008, 09:22 AM

Not the man. The concept. Could their be earlier L's?
or should ask if there was a K?
L, Mello, Near

sammy-chan · 04-27-2008, 03:53 PM

Mello was 21
L was 25
Near is 19

ravstrike · 04-27-2008, 08:50 PM

If L was 25, when did he become the detective known as L. Was there a L (or K) before him? How long had Watsuri been doing this?
Were A-K earlier failed attempts?

MikamiTeru · 04-28-2008, 02:57 AM

thats a good question

I believe L is the original, but I dont know

KingThomas · 05-01-2008, 12:33 AM

My thought was this. L started it. Then the others who followed went by things like Mello/Near untill the current L dies. Then they take his place as L. Light does it then Near does it when the Kira case is finished.

ravstrike · 05-01-2008, 01:21 AM

Is L really the first letter of his real name?
I'm assuming Mello and Near are nicknames and they were just in order.... It's too bad L preceeded Kira (K)... it srews up the whole alphabet thing.

MikamiTeru · 05-02-2008, 06:18 AM

actually
its all a coincidence.

Near's real name is Nate River (Neito Riba)
and Mello's name is reall Mihael Keehl (Mihaeru Keru)

L was an orphan so he had no first name, since he really just went by L for as long as he could remember.
So his name was L Lawliet.
that is why he is called L.

Flash Master · 05-05-2008, 06:22 PM

Although L's B-day is listed as 1982 in the Anime, his birthdate is supposedly 1979, Oct 31st in the Manga, Although, I do not have the chapter reference to back that up. Please feel free to do your own research as I am not 100% sure on this. In reference to his name, his given name I do not believe has been established although I too have heard it was Lawliet, I am not quite finished with the manga's. He has however gone by alias's for intents and purposes. I must say however that in the progression of names, L in computational complexity theory containing decision problems corrected by a Logorithmic...Oh never mind, I probably shouldn't have tried to remember all that. Anyway, the short of it is, L is meaning complexity which is quite fitting. Also, L is likened to the Axiom of Choce in Mathamatics. In Ancient Semitic Hieroglyphics, L actually stands for N which is a fascinating note. When you look at at world studies L and N are often found together. Has Mello actally been called M in the Mangas or Anime? I havent' heard it yet but I am not too far in. Soooo anyhoo, I've got waaay too much time on my hands today. Sorry! I am wondering why such names as Mello and Near were given anyway. Perhaps Ryuzaki's was associated with his namesake but Near? Why take a nickname if your planning on succeeding L anyway? I dunno.

ravstrike · 05-06-2008, 04:46 AM

Well if we're getting into numerology then we should mention that L = 50 (Roman Numeral), and the number fifty is n in Israeli Transliteration of Hebrew. Fifty is significant as it represents a number of things including change; transition. In the Kaballah there are 50 Gates of Wisdom (or Understanding) and 50 Gates of Impurity. So there is a balance aspect that is nicely attained when Light was L. As far as the Axiom of choice, I don't recall it being explained in L or N terms but that was many years ago.

Flash Master · 05-07-2008, 06:10 AM

Well, I suppose The Axiom of choice is not really a good example in this case as it was merely denoted as L. That being said, my brother also pointed out that the Semitic letter L was only derived from the letter N in ancient Hieroglyphs. Reaper 1, Flashmaster 0. Just in case anyone is curios, the Axiom of choice, (the constructible universe denoted as L) is a particular class of steps which can be described entirely in terms of simpler sets. I can honestly say, that I have heard of it but did not know too much about it until I looked it up online. Oh well, I suppose it makes me sound smart. Hee, hee.

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04-27-2008, 09:22 AM	#1 (permalink)
ravstrike Still the Impertinent One Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Jacksonville, Fl; the vortex Posts: 527	How old is L? Not the man. The concept. Could their be earlier L's? or should ask if there was a K? L, Mello, Near __________________ If you are so bored that you are reading this rather than the grand discussion in and amongst the posts, maybe you'll take the time to check out my Advice from an older and slightly more demented Otaku thread. You might read something useful or at least amusing. Last edited by ravstrike : 04-27-2008 at 09:26 AM.

04-27-2008, 03:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
sammy-chan Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 12	Age Mello was 21 L was 25 Near is 19 __________________ I only seem like a smartass because im surrounded by dumbasses...

04-27-2008, 08:50 PM	#3 (permalink)
ravstrike Still the Impertinent One Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Jacksonville, Fl; the vortex Posts: 527	If L was 25, when did he become the detective known as L. Was there a L (or K) before him? How long had Watsuri been doing this? Were A-K earlier failed attempts? __________________ If you are so bored that you are reading this rather than the grand discussion in and amongst the posts, maybe you'll take the time to check out my Advice from an older and slightly more demented Otaku thread. You might read something useful or at least amusing. Last edited by ravstrike : 04-27-2008 at 09:22 PM.

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04-28-2008, 02:57 AM	#4 (permalink)
MikamiTeru Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: anywhere you need me to be Posts: 242	thats a good question I believe L is the original, but I dont know __________________ "Sakujo..." -- Mikami Teru "All of the my obstacles are gone.... I am 'God of the new world'" -- Yagami Raito "Watashi wa Eru-desu" -- Ryuzaki/Ryuuga Hideki/L "Nia!" -- Mello (he sounded cool when he said it) "Alone... neither I or Mello could surpass L" --Near (damn straight! XD) "...." --Matt (What? he's only said like 6 words...)

05-01-2008, 12:33 AM	#5 (permalink)
KingThomas Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The local asylum Posts: 13	My thought was this. L started it. Then the others who followed went by things like Mello/Near untill the current L dies. Then they take his place as L. Light does it then Near does it when the Kira case is finished. __________________ "I'll take a chip . . . And eat it!" -Yagami Light, DeathNote-

05-01-2008, 01:21 AM	#6 (permalink)
ravstrike Still the Impertinent One Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Jacksonville, Fl; the vortex Posts: 527	Is L really the first letter of his real name? I'm assuming Mello and Near are nicknames and they were just in order.... It's too bad L preceeded Kira (K)... it srews up the whole alphabet thing. __________________ If you are so bored that you are reading this rather than the grand discussion in and amongst the posts, maybe you'll take the time to check out my Advice from an older and slightly more demented Otaku thread. You might read something useful or at least amusing.

05-02-2008, 06:18 AM	#7 (permalink)
MikamiTeru Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: anywhere you need me to be Posts: 242	actually its all a coincidence. Near's real name is Nate River (Neito Riba) and Mello's name is reall Mihael Keehl (Mihaeru Keru) L was an orphan so he had no first name, since he really just went by L for as long as he could remember. So his name was L Lawliet. that is why he is called L. __________________ "Sakujo..." -- Mikami Teru "All of the my obstacles are gone.... I am 'God of the new world'" -- Yagami Raito "Watashi wa Eru-desu" -- Ryuzaki/Ryuuga Hideki/L "Nia!" -- Mello (he sounded cool when he said it) "Alone... neither I or Mello could surpass L" --Near (damn straight! XD) "...." --Matt (What? he's only said like 6 words...)

05-05-2008, 06:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
Flash Master Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 39	L , M, N, Oh! Although L's B-day is listed as 1982 in the Anime, his birthdate is supposedly 1979, Oct 31st in the Manga, Although, I do not have the chapter reference to back that up. Please feel free to do your own research as I am not 100% sure on this. In reference to his name, his given name I do not believe has been established although I too have heard it was Lawliet, I am not quite finished with the manga's. He has however gone by alias's for intents and purposes. I must say however that in the progression of names, L in computational complexity theory containing decision problems corrected by a Logorithmic...Oh never mind, I probably shouldn't have tried to remember all that. Anyway, the short of it is, L is meaning complexity which is quite fitting. Also, L is likened to the Axiom of Choce in Mathamatics. In Ancient Semitic Hieroglyphics, L actually stands for N which is a fascinating note. When you look at at world studies L and N are often found together. Has Mello actally been called M in the Mangas or Anime? I havent' heard it yet but I am not too far in. Soooo anyhoo, I've got waaay too much time on my hands today. Sorry! I am wondering why such names as Mello and Near were given anyway. Perhaps Ryuzaki's was associated with his namesake but Near? Why take a nickname if your planning on succeeding L anyway? I dunno.

05-06-2008, 04:46 AM	#9 (permalink)
ravstrike Still the Impertinent One Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Jacksonville, Fl; the vortex Posts: 527	Well if we're getting into numerology then we should mention that L = 50 (Roman Numeral), and the number fifty is n in Israeli Transliteration of Hebrew. Fifty is significant as it represents a number of things including change; transition. In the Kaballah there are 50 Gates of Wisdom (or Understanding) and 50 Gates of Impurity. So there is a balance aspect that is nicely attained when Light was L. As far as the Axiom of choice, I don't recall it being explained in L or N terms but that was many years ago. __________________ If you are so bored that you are reading this rather than the grand discussion in and amongst the posts, maybe you'll take the time to check out my Advice from an older and slightly more demented Otaku thread. You might read something useful or at least amusing.

05-07-2008, 06:10 AM	#10 (permalink)
Flash Master Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 39	L's, L's everywhere... Well, I suppose The Axiom of choice is not really a good example in this case as it was merely denoted as L. That being said, my brother also pointed out that the Semitic letter L was only derived from the letter N in ancient Hieroglyphs. Reaper 1, Flashmaster 0. Just in case anyone is curios, the Axiom of choice, (the constructible universe denoted as L) is a particular class of steps which can be described entirely in terms of simpler sets. I can honestly say, that I have heard of it but did not know too much about it until I looked it up online. Oh well, I suppose it makes me sound smart. Hee, hee.