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Old 03-18-2008, 06:02 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I think Duval is looking for Shanks. The reasons I think this is because Luffy has only recently (as in the past 10 years where as Shanks is much older) obtained the straw hat and never left his home island until he started his journey. It cant be Zolo because his enemies would probably only have wounds to the front because if they were weak enough to run away and show there backs he probably wouldn't bother with them. The same goes for Franky I believe, plus most of his attacks are blunt force attacks. Sanji would never use his hands in a fight even with his cook's knife because he would run the risk of injuring his hands and not being able to cook. Usopp is a coward and shoots balls, stars, eggs, etc. and he never left his home island before he joined the crew, Chopper doesn't really have a way to cut somebody, I mean he could stab with his horns but it wouldn't really leave a lasting cut plus he never left his home island before he joined the crew, Brook just joined the crew so nobody would even know he part of the crew outside the pirates that the crew helped out, and finally the girls are excluded because they are girls and not guys and therefore can't be the "him" Duval is looking for. Also Shanks is a swordsman and can therefore cut people and has been an active pirate for at least three times as long as Luffy (he was at least in his 20's when Luffy met him if not older). One last thought if it is Shanks Duval won't join the crew because why would Luffy bring someone along who wants to kill his idol, and if somebody does join it will probably be Caimei because her ditzy personality fits most of the crew.

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Old 03-18-2008, 01:23 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Dang, pezztalent! You just blew me off the water with your theory. I love it. I never thought to look at Shanks as the person Duval was after. What you say makes so much sense! Because when you read the chapter again, it seems that the phrase "Strawhat Pirates" was always in quotations...which might have some significant meaning. The "strawhat" referring to Shanks.

Here's another observation...did you notice on page 3, I think, the jolly roger displayed? Looking at it closely, you'll see that the flag has a skull with a mustache similar to White Beard's. So chances of Shanks meeting up with Duval in the past is a high possibility...who might be one of the 16 captains under WB's command. And also Duval mistaking Luffy for Shanks because he's wearing a "strawhat" that Shanks had worn so many years ago. Not only that, looking at Duval, doesn't he have the same built as WB? Could they be in fact...related?
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Old 03-18-2008, 08:46 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I think Duval could be an enemy that they bet up Duval's face and gave him that scar on

Duval's chest. I think ha might be Don Krieg. There is a chance he is someone new that they

are completely making up for this chapter. Being that he has a scar on his body it could be

from Zoro's blade or Brooke's (only if Duval is over 50)
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Old 03-19-2008, 03:27 AM   #14 (permalink)
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it can be, but i doubt it, because if you saw the price of luffy now, there is now doubt that his bounty is around sichi bounty (100 million ++), and it makes luffy become famous and many people now him as straw hat pirates, even a goverment call luffy straw hat.
so i would say the chance that duval mistaken about shanks and luffy is small ( maybe if luffy head is still 30 million and he's not famous enought maybe the chance to get mistaken is lower and that theory might be true)

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there is a chance don krieg can be duval, but my question maybe, hw can he get to greenland?, i mean in the past he got kicked out by mihawk doesnt he? is he not afraid to go back to green land again?

but that what i am thinking about
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It can still be Shanks, the Strawhat Crew are in the second half of the Grand Line which is ruled by the Yonkou and not the World Government, and Duval could have been searching for Shanks so simplemindedly that he didn't pay any attention to any new pirates that had rising bounties. And when Luffy met Bellamy his bounty was over 100 million and around Shichi level (he had just beaten a Shichi and saved a kingdom) and Bellamy and the rest of the pirates didn't have any idea who he was, and even though his bounty has raised it hasn't been that long since it was raised and the people in the second half of the Grand Line might not have found out.
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It can still be Shanks, the Strawhat Crew are in the second half of the Grand Line which is ruled by the Yonkou and not the World Government, and Duval could have been searching for Shanks so simplemindedly that he didn't pay any attention to any new pirates that had rising bounties. And when Luffy met Bellamy his bounty was over 100 million and around Shichi level (he had just beaten a Shichi and saved a kingdom) and Bellamy and the rest of the pirates didn't have any idea who he was, and even though his bounty has raised it hasn't been that long since it was raised and the people in the second half of the Grand Line might not have found out.
yah if that the case it can be true, but is it luffy not really famous now? i mean he attack the goverment prison, it suppose become big issue in many pirates because one pirate can messed up the goverment prison,
but who knows, i am not really sure bout who duval means either heee

btw when luffy met bellamy his bounty still 30 million belli, bellamy just know luffy head become 100 million when the new bounty come up
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Oh yeah, I didn't remember that his new bounty didn't come out until he met Bellamy. But I don't think the World Government put it in the paper that Luffy and the crew escaped a Buster Call because it's supposed to be a thing nobody knows about (or can escape from) which is why they kill everybody that's not a marine (unless the marine is fighting against the Buster Call). A few of the higher up pirates like the Yonkou or the Shichi will know but regular crews wouldn't. And they probably wouldn't want people to know that one crew was able to take out a Shichi and survive a Buster Call while declaring war on the Government, which is also why the World Government didn't want Moria's defeat to be known because it would make them look weak because one crew was able to make them look like fools so many times.

But as blopwbb says who knows, this is just my speculation and I could be totally off the mark and it is one of the crew Duval is looking for, but I can't wait to find out who it is.

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I think Duval could be an enemy that they bet up Duval's face and gave him that scar on Duval's chest. I think ha might be Don Krieg. There is a chance he is someone new that they are completely making up for this chapter. Being that he has a scar on his body it could be from Zoro's blade or Brooke's (only if Duval is over 50)
No...I don't agree with you about Don Krieg being Duval. Did you see the size of Duval...? He's about 10+ in height. So unless Don Krieg overdosed in steriods, it couldn't be him. However, I do agree that Duval is a new character that is yet to be revealed. As far as who's he talking about "that man", your guess is as a good as mine. Hopefully, Oda-san will reveal who "that man" is in the next chapter. But if I have to wait another week for the answer...AARGH! It's going to kill me!


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yah if that the case it can be true, but is it luffy not really famous now? i mean he attack the goverment prison, it suppose become big issue in many pirates because one pirate can messed up the goverment prison, but who knows, i am not really sure bout who duval means either heee
Do you remember that the World Government is trying to keep this incident underwraps...because of the Alabasta incident? It's one thing to beat up Sir Croc, former Shichibukai, and have Luffy's bounty raised with no apparent reason (that is not make it known why his bounty increased) and quite another about the Enis Lobby incident be known. It doesn't bode well to let the world know that a small unknown group of pirates are causing some havoc. And to top that, have another Shichi, namely Moria, get major pwnd by the same person, Luffy. That's just too much for WG to handle...and they know it's getting out of hand.

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As far as the Shanks theory...don't blow it off too soon. I understand that Duval does know Shanks because he's known as the Red Hair Pirates. But could there be a possibility that he and Shanks had a scuffle over something...and Luffy's name just happened to be brought up? So Duval blames someone else for his misery and humiliation even though it was someone else who may have inflicted the wound. I'm just saying this because people were theorizing that Duval may have an idiotic reason for wanting revenge. And this falls in the ridiculous category, wouldn't you say...?? It's just a thought.
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