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| The Otter Overlord | But he didn't beat Smoker or even try fighting him he threw up a smoke screen(technically its fire but you know what I mean) and ran. http://www.mangafox.com/page/manga/read/106/one_piece/chapter.12117/page.11/ And just because Ace says he's stronger doesn't mean he is, nobody (besides maybe Usopp) is going to say they are weaker then somebody else they are fighting.
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| The Otter Overlord | But Smoker also has his sea-stone tipped sword, so all he would have to do was hit Ace with the sword and then grab him with smoke and have a marine put handcuffs on him.
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| The Otter Overlord | Yeah, Ace is a formidable fighter, but Smoker was able to incapacitate Luffy who is probably a better physical fighter then Ace. If Smoker got Ace with his sword Ace wouldn't be able to change into fire and flee because the sea stone would rob him of his powers. And if Ace just used range attacks he couldn't hit Smoker, and you can't light smoke on fire being as it's a product of fire. And also Smoker has a very long reach with his smoke, and he can extend his arms, as far as we've seen Ace can't. And lastly, if Ace put up another firewall and fled it would be proving that he wasn't strong enough to beat Smoker, you can make the case that when they fought in the manga Ace had to catch up to Luffy so thats why he ran, but if they fought again and he fled well then that's his lose.
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| Ace can't be beaten so easily, Even his Devil Fruit ability has been sealed, He can fight. He is (You Can See At Fighting with Blackbeard). And then Ace power just like shichibukai, And Smoker don't. ![]()
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| sorry but i don't think ace power is like sichi now(i'm eliminate crocodile )..since he got terible lose by blackbeard , and if kuma or don know the weakness of ace, i think he will get beaten up easily , and i am agree if smoker not as strong as sichi (as far as i know)..or maybe (this is only my guess), he's strong enough but he does not want to be like sichi or admiral because he sick of goverments
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| Envoy of Choas | When it comes to logia powers, the reason why they are very powerful is that when mastered the users can turn them into that element fully, and completely. I take back my last comment, and Ace would beat Smoker. Smoker has not completely his ability becuase he deos not completely turn to smoke as fast as Ace turns to fire. Also Ace can send out a larger fire than Smokers smoke. I would favore Smoker more in a fight against the two, but Ace is a bit stronger. The Shiki are higher ranked than admirals, becuase they are seen as equals with the fleet Admiral ,Goku, who is above the three admirals. |
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