[kasumi_yyh07]

I have a couple of questions about VK that have been piling up. So far, they are still unresolved so that’s why I call them “unanswered”.

1. Why is Yuki so special? Everyone wants her! Apart from the obvious love triangle with Kaname and Zero, why does Rido also want her and for what purpose?

2. What is the history of the Kuran Family? Why were Kaname’s parents at odds with Rido? What happened that caused them to wish for a different future for Yuki and keep her locked away from the world—her existence a secret?

3. Are Kaname and Yuki really siblings? Kaname admits to Aido and Akatsuki, even to Yuki, that they are siblings, but denies it in front of Zero. Also, what did he mean that he is the ancestor of Kuran? If he is, then how does Yuki fit in the equation?

4. Who ordered the Kiryuu clan to “hunt” Shizuka’s human-turned-vampire lover? Someone mentioned before that the Kiryuu’s murder of Shizuka’s lover drove her to kill the entire clan. Also, Rido says that Shizuka was his fiancé. Could he have been the perpetrator? Did he plan it? Why?

5. If Shiki is Rido’s illegitimate child (I say illegitimate because of the fact that Shizuka was Rido’s fiancé) to another woman, then doesn’t that make him and Kaname cousins or something like that? The fact that Shiki is Rido’s child, is that why he’s close friends with Ichijou?

6. What is Ichijou’s stand in this exactly? He doesn’t appear to be against Kaname, nor does he want to betray his grandfather. Why isn’t his character given much depth, considering the position he’s placed in?

7. I forgot which chapter, but it was definitely mentioned that the Kiryuu clan became the greatest hunters because their ancestors “ate” a vampire. Is that why twins born in a Hunter family is considered a bad omen even though they’re humans? Could it also be somehow connected with the Kuran’s past?

8. Why did Chairman Cross retire from being a Hunter? Was it really because of his dream? And how did he become good acquaintances with Yuki’s mother? He mentioned her name specifically, but not her husband’s. Also, why did he become Zero’s guardian? Why wasn’t another Hunter chosen? Was it just for the sake of the story?

9. What are Ichiru’s true intentions? Was it really out of spite or jealousy that he betrayed Zero? If so, then why did he request of Shizuka to leave Zero alive? He’s still human, so that makes him fresh meat for the vampires. In that case, considering the vampires from Rido’s camp are bloodthirsty beings, why hasn’t Ichiru been bitten yet?

10. Reading back at a few chapters in VK, Ichiru continuously comments to Zero that he has “horrible tastes in women”, referring to Yuki. Was he just teasing Zero or was he aware of Yuki’s vampire heritage all along?

11. What’s the deal with Hunter association and the Vampire society? Is there a conspiracy going on?

12. What are Kaname’s intentions? He is surrounded in pure mystery. He acts kind to Yuki yet treats Zero like a pawn. Which is his true side? What is he trying to do, really?

13. Why is Zero’s name even “Zero”? Does it bear significant meaning to what might happen to him later on, or is it because it just sounds cool?

14. Just a minor detail I noticed: What happened to the gun Zero gave Yuki? Wait, how did Zero even get that gun? As far as I’m concerned, Zero uses the Bloody Rose, while Yuki uses Artemis. Are hunters given extra guns? But when Yuki tried using Bloody Rose, Zero said she’d only hurt herself and, true enough, she looked like she was in pain just from holding it. Yet she was able to hold the gun Zero gave to her. Where is it anyway? How can she keep her promise with Zero if she’s not constantly keeping it with her?

15. Why is the series called Vampire Knight? Is it a random name the author thought of, or does it refer to a character (or characters) in the story? Considering that all three protagonists are vampires, does that mean any one of them could be the “knight”? It could be Kaname since he acts like a knight to Yuki, always saving her. But the word “knight” could also be taken literally to mean “warrior”. Considering what Kaname said in chapter 39 about raising Zero to become the most powerful hunter to defeat Rido, could Zero be the Vampire Knight?


For now, these are the questions that I’ve been thinking of, but more might pop out of nowhere.

P.S. I love Ichijou x Shiki!!! I don’t know why, but it’s the only yaoi pairing I like in VK. I love it more than Shiki x Rima. Argh!! Why does the sight of Shiki lapping up Ichijou’s blood look so damn hot??!!

Curse you, Hino-sensei for adding BL fanservice in your work! Now, I am SO for Ichijou x Shiki!! Someone get me a psychiatrist!!!

[icequeen2292]

actually, some of those questions i've been asking myself too but i have some theories though to help me comprehend why in it happens...
Here are some of my theories/things i've read before but don't remember where i did: (the numbering follows the question asked)
1. i think rido is after her too because its necessary to sacrifice a pureblood to restore life
2. i think that question is related to the first. being a pureblood (a rare type of vampire), her life is at stake around vampires like rido who kill their kind.
3. i think that kaname is the ancestor of kuran. in his blood runs the blood of the real brother of yuki, the real kaname. the kaname now is the result of the sacrifice( in form of yuki's real brother ) when rido revived him.
4. i really doubt that rido is the one who ordered the kiryuu clan to hunt down shizuka's lover. I think that a family of vampire hunters wouldn't want to get orders from a bigger bounty don't you think.
6. i think the author wants him to be the character that would make the huge twist in the future chapters.
8. i think its because he was in some kind of danger and yuki's mother saved him. so basically, he owes her a lot. I guess he was given guardianship over zero because he would probably be the only person who could understand his situation and help him out considering being a headmaster of a school where vampires lived.
12. i think he just wants yuki all for himself seeing that zero gets the sympathy of yuki more. he wants yuki to see and understand him too.
13. i think its just to sound cool. and it is.
15. i think the reason for the unusual title is this: The story basically revolves on the lives of vampires and humans and their struggles to attain peace and harmony amongst themselves.


thats all my opinion though... you don't need to believe me... i know some of those theories don't really make sense...

[seeliespright]

1. Yuuki has some special power that Rido wants. The boys want her for the obvious reasons.

2. Rido was interested in power, and the machinations of the vampire Senate. The Kurans simply wanted to live a quiet life with their family away from all of the mess of politics. But the power he had wasn't enough for Rido, and he wanted the ultimate strength of the Kurans (which I believe is what Yuuki has).

3. This has been answered on several forum threads. Kaname's body is that of Yuuki's brother and his soul is that of the Kuran ancestor. But Kaname seems also to have inherited the memories and love of Yuuki's brother (whose soul is now dead).

4. They told is quite some time ago, but I can't remember. If you feel like looking, it is explained there in the chapters that deal with the murder of Zero's family. (I can't tell you where, sorry.) I don't think Rido was in any way involved. He makes a comment like, "Oh, it's convenient that she's out of the way" that implies he didn't pay any particular attention to her anyway. Also, he wouldn't really have much reason to want Zero's family killed, since I don't think he was really worried about them killing him.

5. I'm not entirely clear about this, but I think Rido married someone else when Shizuka Hio went insane and went elsewhere. Otherwise, Shiki is Rido's child out of wedlock. And yes, Kaname's body and Yuuki are cousins to Shiki. I'm certain Shiki isn't friends with Ichijo for any reason involving their families. Shiki didn't even know Rido was alive until just recently when he was shown Rido and Rido took over his body. And Ichijo doesn't like his family at all, and hasn't done what they wanted until just now.

6. Ichijo loves Kaname and wants to support him and fight to keep him and his loved ones safe. But he thinks that he can't disobey his grandfather, and the Ichijo family so that's why he's going along with things. I'm sure that he'll take Kaname's side in the end and fight against Rido. Ichijo only stopped Kaname from killing Rido when he tried because Rido was in Shiki's body.

7. In many societies, twins are viewed as bad omens, or downright evil, so I think we have some of that mythology coming into play here. But there is also a curse that one of the two twins will devour the other (or steal his power, as Zero did Ichiru) because of the fact that they devoured a vampire. The Kuran family must have been around at the time, but they wouldn't necessarily have any interest in supporting the vampire Hunters.

8. Cross didn't like the ways of the Hunters and how they thought that no vampires are redeemable and he dreamed of peace, and decided to start working toward that dream. We don't know how he is involved with the Kuran family, and hopefully they'll tell us later. I think he's a vampire aristocrat, and would know them that way, but I don't know how he became intimately involved with the family. Cross became Zero's guardian because he cared about the boy, and knew he'd be the best person to care for the child - also, it is possible no one else wanted to raise him. But he did have Toga with him training him from when he was little.

9. Did Ichiru request Shizuka to spare Zero? I don't recall that at all. I thought Shizuka let him alive to make him suffer the slow agony of turning into a vampire. I don't think Irchiru is human. Kaname left Shizuka's blood for Zero after he killed her, but it was Ichiru who took the blood; and Ichiru must have been drinking Shizuka's blood when he was little because that is how he was able to gain the strength to live on his own (he was too weak before).

10. Who knows?

11. There is certainly a conspiracy. It's all about wanting power, and both parties (Ichijo's grandfather and the chief of the Hunters) are gaining from it somehow. I think now that Rido has been revived, they will follow his leadership.

12. Both sides are his true sides, and I believe that much of the plotting he has pursued is for her sake. He wants to be rid of Rido so he can live in peace. I don't know if he wants to rule the vampires, but I don't think so. I think he'd be content to retire with Yuuki and live as their parents did. I don't remember what else you asked.

13. It sounds cool.

14. Zero must have taken it back at some point.

15. I think Knight is partially a pun, and partially because all of the goodies are struggling to maintain peace and defeat the conniving vampires.

I don't think I've written an Ichijo Shiki story. If not, I must move to rectify this matter immediately.

[seeliespright]

To Ice's #8: The Academy wasn't established until after Zero was taken in by the Headmaster. (And Zero was really pissed off when Cross proposed it.) They showed us that a few chapters back. I can't remember where.

[kasumi_yyh07]

I'm really not sure who was telling the truth... During Zero's encounter with Shizuka, she tells him that she kept him alive so he'd become her puppet. For what reason, I don't know, which adds another question to my list.

Why did she leave Zero alive? What was the significance of turning him into a vampire?

I forgot which chapter, probably the Zero x Ichiru confrontation during the evening ball, or probably one of the many encounters they had in school, Ichiru says that even though he despised Zero, he still liked him somewhat. That's why he asked Shizuka to keep him alive.

I don't know which of the two are telling the truth. They're just probably toying with Zero to add more drama and angst to his life.

I'm not saying that Rido was the one who personally ordered the Kiryuu family to kill Shizuka's lover. He probably did it indirectly by using some random and nameless underling/puppet, or tricked the Kiryuu family to kill him. As it was stated, Shizuka's lover was of no threat -- he wasn't showing any signs of becoming a Level E, yet he was still hunted -- by great Hunters no less! So the question is... why?

Heck, I'm not even sure if it WAS Rido who ordered it! It could be someone from the Hunter association! The way I see it, both organizations are very shady, and they might be hiding ulterior motives... It's all too suspicious...

About what I said, Kiryuu's ancestor eating a vampire and it being related to the Kuran's, that's purely speculation on my part. The impression I got was that SOMETHING happened to those two families a long time ago. And it's only my theory that the two events probably happened side by side. Maybe the vampire that the Kiryuu's ate was a Kuran? If not, probably a Pureblood?

Well, I don't know... Thinking about it hurts my brain... Ah, so many questions...

Oh, and can anyone please explain to me why Rido's eyes have different colors? I think it was mentioned in a chapter or so, but I forgot, and I don't really understand it very well. Otherwise, it's on my list of questions.

Just a sidenote: Ichijou's grandfather is to Rido, as Seiren is to Kaname. Well, that's what I think. How DID he get her as his servant and (as far as I can see) personal bodyguard? In her first appearance, I thought she was another fan girl of Kaname's, but she seems to be Kaname's personal guard.

[seeliespright]

I'm more inclined to believe that Shizuka was telling the truth, and that she let him live to make him suffer the most. As you know, to turn into the very thing he hates most - and slowly and painfully - is the most exquisite suffering. I think that's the reason he was allowed to live and was turned into a vampire. I think Ichiru just likes to screw with him.

I don't know about Shizuka's lover. Whoever it was wanted to eliminate the Kiryuu family, and possibly also wanted to remove Shizuka from the picture (by driving her insane, or to deep depression). It could be the Hunters' society or the Hunters' society in cahoots with the vampire Senate.

I'm sure that the vampire the Kiryuus' ate was either an aristocrat or a pure-blood, but I don't logically see any reason it has to be a Kuran or connected to them. Pure-bloods are rare, but not so small in numbers that they are all intimately tied. Who knows? If anything, the mangaka will make what you suggest the case just because it ties everything together. But if it weren't for the narrative-likelihood, there isn't any reason for the Kurans to be involved.

I think the differently coloured eyes is connected with him being an abomination / heretical creature. It is a feature from other series as well, one golden eye and one of another - usually normal - colour. If you've seen Saiyuki, Goku has golden eyes indicating his liminal status, and Homura has one gold and one black (I think) eye. I've also recently seen the mismatched eyes in the Enchanter, indicating there that the boys are magical, but I've never seen the mismatched eyes with that meaning before.

I think Seiren simply cares for Kaname deeply, and has decided to take on that role. If you remember how much enamored of Kaname Aido is, and how he has resolved also to protect Kaname (and will now be more active in doing so since they're fighting now). I think Seiren has made the same resolution, but decided to play that part in daily life. I don't like to imagine her being compelled to take that role.

Many of the vampires feel the same way. If you remember the party where Zero pointed his gun at Kaname, and all of the vampires were ready to tear him apart; and that was just because of normal feeling toward pure-bloods. Of devotion to Kaname, we have Aido, Ruuka (now especially), and Seiren.

I have not yet written the Ichijo Shiki pairing, and will do so in the next few days and post it on my fanfiction page. I'm in love with the pairing now, and will write the story even though it's not a crack pairing.

I forgot to mention: This is a really good thread. It gets us thinking, and isn't another, "When is the next chapter coming out?" thread.

[kasumi_yyh07]

Thanks, seeliespright! You're really a great help!

The thing about the Kiryuu's and the Kuran's really has me boggled. They may not be related, but somehow I get the feeling they are. Seeing as vampires have a MUCH LONGER lifespan, it's not really impossible that they haven't (at one point) come into contact with the Kiryuu's.

Correct me if I'm wrong on this one, but Purebloods are vampires who maintain a pure legacy, that is to say, their lineage has not been tainted by human blood, right? If I use that thinking, then there probably was a time (probably a million years or so!!) that Purebloods, were, in fact, abundant. But due to the course of time, their numbers diminished until they eventually became rare types of vampires.

I'm not sure on that one, so do please correct me if I'm wrong...

Anyway, I'd really like to see more of the Hunter association again. I'd want to know how they were established, stuff like that. Don't tell me Hino-sensei will make a reference to Van Helsing!! just kidding...

Just another detail that I've noticed... How did Zero get that tatoo? I know it bears significance, but who gave it to him? Was it Cross? Or was it someone from the Hunter association? In previous flashbacks, they show Zero without a tatoo, but in the current storyline he has it.

Also... what's the deal with that chief Hunter? It gives me the creeps, not to mention confuses me. First, they want Zero to become a Hunter, that's why they've been sending him on minor missions outside the school, then suddenly they act as if they don't really care about him -- saying that he must be eliminated. And now, they want him as a pawn?

Creepy...

I want to see more of Zero's teacher!!! He kind of reminds me of Cross Marian from D. Gray-man...

[seeliespright]

Well, the members of the Kuran family not only have long life-spans, but their clan has been around for a very long time. I think Haruka said something about 3,000 or 4,000 years to Juuri for just them, and then you have all of those who came before them because the family is old and venerated. Unless you mean that Haruka and Juuri had contact with the Kuryuu clan, and that I couldn't say.

There must have been a time when all vampires were pure-bloods and then they mingled with humans and their blood began to be diminished. Certain ones continued to marry humans becoming common vampires, and others stayed close to the pure-bloods and married with humans less frequently (aristocrats), while certain ones - much fewer in number and dwindling as the older generations died out - never mixed with humans.

Van Helsing wasn't a vampire hunter. He was a doctor.

I'm sure that Zero got his tattoo from the Hunters' society because I can't imagine Cross doing it himself, but he may have if it were done with a magical spell only and not the traditional way. It had to be one of the two.

The chief of the Hunters' society thought that she could use Zero, but he is much too difficult to control (as she says) so she decided to just lock him up to get him out of the way. I don't think she wanted to kill him since she probably could have done if she wanted (since Zero was so close to Level E it could be justified), but she may want him dead now.

I don't know if I see the parallel between Toga and Marian, but they are both hot, and masters so... maybe.

[kasumi_yyh07]

Originally Posted by seeliespright

Van Helsing wasn't a vampire hunter. He was a doctor.

I don't know if I see the parallel between Toga and Marian, but they are both hot, and masters so... maybe.

ABSOLUTELY!!!! Toga and Marian are hot, hot, HOT!!!! Toga reminds me of Marian by the way he teases Zero. And that's all. Well, you could probably add that certain aura around him... You know, the type that he means business so better not cross him... PLUS!! One side of their face is covered. (Though I don't know what reason Marian has for covering his face)

I know Van Helsing is a doctor. It's just that in Bram Stoker's novel, he seemed to have a vast knowledge about vampires, and he is thus remembered in mythology as Dracula's arch-nemesis. I was just wondering if VK will also mention Van Helsing like in HELSING (is the spelling right?) But then again, this is a shoujo genre, so I'm beginning to doubt that point.

Anyone else have some questions pondering them or interesting theories?

Oh, and another thing... I don't know why but seeing Toga and Cross together is starting to remind me of Sagai and that pharmacist (sorry, forgot his name) from Gohou Drug. And I have no idea where that parallel came from...

[seeliespright]

Originally Posted by kasumi_yyh07

Oh, and another thing... I don't know why but seeing Toga and Cross together is starting to remind me of Sagai and that pharmacist (sorry, forgot his name) from Gohou Drug. And I have no idea where that parallel came from...

*rofs my tea* *Is now having visions of Toga sleeping in Cross' lap*

I wonder what sort of mythology the mangaka is working from. She seems to have just the basic popular knowledge of vampires, and then devised her own mythology for the rest of the story. I wonder if she is ever going to get into the history of the Hunters. I imagine not since I think the manga will end shortly after the Rido problem is resolved, and there really isn't any reason to give the history now. Who knows, though, it may end up being tied to the Kurans and she will give it.

I'm much more interested in Cross' nature (since I think he's a aristocrat) and his back-story. I think they will at least explain his connection to the Kurans; and I imagine it will happen in the next chapter since we're now focussed on him. *is excited*

I don't think I have any questions... I've been too busy discussing and explaining things, and I think I worked out all the things that were troubling me (save Cross, as above).

P.S. I've written the Shiki Ichijo pairing, and it's on my fanfiction page.